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	<title>Comments on: Cities Move from Sustainable to &#8216;Climate Positive&#8217; Development</title>
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		<title>By: How to Design Resilient Cities &#171; The Dirt</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Design Resilient Cities &#171; The Dirt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] rating systems (LEED, BREAM, Green Globes, and the New South Wales BASIX approval system). (Also, see earlier post on Clinton&#8217;s climate positive development cities)  Distributed City: Cities will shift from large centralized power, water, and waste systems to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rating systems (LEED, BREAM, Green Globes, and the New South Wales BASIX approval system). (Also, see earlier post on Clinton&#8217;s climate positive development cities)  Distributed City: Cities will shift from large centralized power, water, and waste systems to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mollie</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mollie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other ways to get closer to negative CO2 are: use less energy (drive less, use more efficient appliances, grow a garden so that less food is shipped to you, buy food that comes from nearby--and is in season) and cultivate more vegetation to absorb the CO2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other ways to get closer to negative CO2 are: use less energy (drive less, use more efficient appliances, grow a garden so that less food is shipped to you, buy food that comes from nearby&#8211;and is in season) and cultivate more vegetation to absorb the CO2.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that there are extensive opportunities for solar power in cities but I think it&#039;s completely unrealistic to think that they would result in a city becoming energy self sufficient, let alone a power exporter.  Solar panels produce a relatively low yield of electricity in relation to their size.

That said, I&#039;d like to see the building and tax codes revised to make solar panels more attractive.  Just because they aren&#039;t a complete solution doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t worthwhile.  As I recall Germany has a program like this in place now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there are extensive opportunities for solar power in cities but I think it&#8217;s completely unrealistic to think that they would result in a city becoming energy self sufficient, let alone a power exporter.  Solar panels produce a relatively low yield of electricity in relation to their size.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d like to see the building and tax codes revised to make solar panels more attractive.  Just because they aren&#8217;t a complete solution doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t worthwhile.  As I recall Germany has a program like this in place now.</p>
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		<title>By: coop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lex,

There are numbers below zero. But I suppose what they mean is that the city will somehow absorb more C02 than it generates - however unlikely that is...

Wind is not a good idea for most places, but there is a lot of unused real estate for solar, both PV and HW. Large buildings can be re-skinned, not just for insulation improvements, but to add active surfaces, such as PV arrays.

See the linked document (Retrofitting the Built Space)

http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/greengrowsup/pdf/ZFP_New_Skin_New_Hope.pdf

There are thousands or roofs that could also be used to support solar arrays to generate electricity. All is needed is a SmartGrid to properly manage and transport the generated electricity. Sounds like a good way to spend government (our) money - that is the economic stimulation package.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lex,</p>
<p>There are numbers below zero. But I suppose what they mean is that the city will somehow absorb more C02 than it generates &#8211; however unlikely that is&#8230;</p>
<p>Wind is not a good idea for most places, but there is a lot of unused real estate for solar, both PV and HW. Large buildings can be re-skinned, not just for insulation improvements, but to add active surfaces, such as PV arrays.</p>
<p>See the linked document (Retrofitting the Built Space)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/greengrowsup/pdf/ZFP_New_Skin_New_Hope.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/greengrowsup/pdf/ZFP_New_Skin_New_Hope.pdf</a></p>
<p>There are thousands or roofs that could also be used to support solar arrays to generate electricity. All is needed is a SmartGrid to properly manage and transport the generated electricity. Sounds like a good way to spend government (our) money &#8211; that is the economic stimulation package.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Climate positive real estate developments will strive to reduce the amount of on-site CO2 emissions to below zero.&quot;

There is no number below zero.  Once you hit zero you can&#039;t go any lower.

BTW, how are cities going to generate all their own power?  I assume fossil fuel generators and nukes are out.  That leaves wind, solar, and hydroelectric.  

Wind and solar need lots of land which cities don&#039;t have.  Hydro would require massive dams which have their own negative consequences and which in any case are usually unsuitable for geographic reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Climate positive real estate developments will strive to reduce the amount of on-site CO2 emissions to below zero.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no number below zero.  Once you hit zero you can&#8217;t go any lower.</p>
<p>BTW, how are cities going to generate all their own power?  I assume fossil fuel generators and nukes are out.  That leaves wind, solar, and hydroelectric.  </p>
<p>Wind and solar need lots of land which cities don&#8217;t have.  Hydro would require massive dams which have their own negative consequences and which in any case are usually unsuitable for geographic reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog &#187; Getting Real About High-Speed Rail</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Streetsblog &#187; Getting Real About High-Speed Rail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] things to think about from around the network: The Dirt looks at the possibility that cities of the future will generate more power than they consume. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog &#187; Getting Real About High-Speed Rail</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Streetsblog &#187; Getting Real About High-Speed Rail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] decisions about how much we drove our cars.   Other things to think about from around the network: The Dirt looks at the possibility that cities of the future will generate more power than they consume. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] decisions about how much we drove our cars.   Other things to think about from around the network: The Dirt looks at the possibility that cities of the future will generate more power than they consume. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog » Getting Real About High-Speed Rail</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/05/22/moving-from-sustainable-to-positive-climate-development-in-cities/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Streetsblog » Getting Real About High-Speed Rail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] things to think about from around the network: The Dirt looks at the possibility that cities of the future will generate more power than they consume. [...]]]></description>
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