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	<title>Comments on: Forested Urban Roofs</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/17/forested-urban-roofs/#comment-923</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[interesting form of green roof! many information about green roofs in the site http://www.greenroofs.gr !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting form of green roof! many information about green roofs in the site <a href="http://www.greenroofs.gr" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenroofs.gr</a> !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Zakery Steele</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/17/forested-urban-roofs/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zakery Steele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...a new form of green roof&quot; ???

LDS Conference Center roof, Salt Lake City, UT  ...a semi-forested roof that was completed nearly TEN YEARS AGO (2000) with bristlecone pines and other native plantings.  This was completed even before ASLA&#039;s green roof.

Zimmer Gunsul Frasca Partnership, Architects

http://www.hydrotechusa.com/lds_5.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Conference_center_roof.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a new form of green roof&#8221; ???</p>
<p>LDS Conference Center roof, Salt Lake City, UT  &#8230;a semi-forested roof that was completed nearly TEN YEARS AGO (2000) with bristlecone pines and other native plantings.  This was completed even before ASLA&#8217;s green roof.</p>
<p>Zimmer Gunsul Frasca Partnership, Architects</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hydrotechusa.com/lds_5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hydrotechusa.com/lds_5.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Conference_center_roof.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Conference_center_roof.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Ling RCA</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/17/forested-urban-roofs/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Ling RCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice idea, but are the trees &#039;anchored&#039; for now and in anticipation of 2025, or 2050?

As engineered systems, all trees must have a building platform to support both the botonical physiology and the structural engineering.  This means cubic feet of root zone for the sub-soil root mass to form and support the above ground tissues.  There is no static state for these trees!

As in many other urban sites, if the objective is to have trees and replace them every 10-15 years, then the pre-planting investments are less important, but, &quot;50&#039; pines&quot; on top of a tall building, face weather events and micro-climate affects, never produced in a &quot;northern woodlands&quot;.  This could be a nightmare where &quot;moving firewood down the elevator&quot; is the least of the manangement&#039;s concens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea, but are the trees &#8216;anchored&#8217; for now and in anticipation of 2025, or 2050?</p>
<p>As engineered systems, all trees must have a building platform to support both the botonical physiology and the structural engineering.  This means cubic feet of root zone for the sub-soil root mass to form and support the above ground tissues.  There is no static state for these trees!</p>
<p>As in many other urban sites, if the objective is to have trees and replace them every 10-15 years, then the pre-planting investments are less important, but, &#8220;50&#8242; pines&#8221; on top of a tall building, face weather events and micro-climate affects, never produced in a &#8220;northern woodlands&#8221;.  This could be a nightmare where &#8220;moving firewood down the elevator&#8221; is the least of the manangement&#8217;s concens.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierce</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/17/forested-urban-roofs/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pierce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been in northern forests that are essentially monocultures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in northern forests that are essentially monocultures.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Twisler</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/17/forested-urban-roofs/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Twisler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks, don&#039;t be proud of this! Planting 100+ Austrian Pines is a monoculture that&#039;s very susceptible to disease (and Austrian Pine is not known for its disease resistance; see diplodia). &quot;Emulates the Northern forests&quot;? You mean the way Speed Racer emulates NASCAR? What&#039;s that client going to do when he has to lug all that firewood down a skyscraper? As Landscape Architects, we should know better!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, don&#8217;t be proud of this! Planting 100+ Austrian Pines is a monoculture that&#8217;s very susceptible to disease (and Austrian Pine is not known for its disease resistance; see diplodia). &#8220;Emulates the Northern forests&#8221;? You mean the way Speed Racer emulates NASCAR? What&#8217;s that client going to do when he has to lug all that firewood down a skyscraper? As Landscape Architects, we should know better!</p>
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