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	<title>Comments on: Los Angeles Offers Rebate for Ripping Out Lawns</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Lewis, Portland Oregon Landscaping</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/29/los-angeles-offers-rebate-for-ripping-out-lawns/#comment-4775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Lewis, Portland Oregon Landscaping]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before we get too awfully excited, please consider the environmental BENEFITS that lawns provide. A nice list of these considerations is posted here; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.projectevergreen.com/why-green-matters/environmental-benefits/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project Evergreen – Environmental Benefits of Lawns and Green Spaces&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we get too awfully excited, please consider the environmental BENEFITS that lawns provide. A nice list of these considerations is posted here; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.projectevergreen.com/why-green-matters/environmental-benefits/" rel="nofollow">Project Evergreen – Environmental Benefits of Lawns and Green Spaces</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Er...right....  
Should we put a cow in the yard as well?
You do realize that people hit the market for MORE than fruits and vegetables, yes?  lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er&#8230;right&#8230;.<br />
Should we put a cow in the yard as well?<br />
You do realize that people hit the market for MORE than fruits and vegetables, yes?  lol</p>
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		<title>By: skraeling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skraeling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Replace the lawn and trees with fruit bearing trees and a garden. It may not cut down on total water bill, but will reduce carbon output by eliminating trips to the market for produce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace the lawn and trees with fruit bearing trees and a garden. It may not cut down on total water bill, but will reduce carbon output by eliminating trips to the market for produce.</p>
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		<title>By: Who wants to Be a Landscape Auditor? What? &#171; Arch//Land</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/29/los-angeles-offers-rebate-for-ripping-out-lawns/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who wants to Be a Landscape Auditor? What? &#171; Arch//Land]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Recently I received a call to be a landscape auditor, and something tells me it was because of this.  This is the job I have been waiting for throughout this whole mess, going door-to-door telling [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Recently I received a call to be a landscape auditor, and something tells me it was because of this.  This is the job I have been waiting for throughout this whole mess, going door-to-door telling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Turfdog</title>
		<link>http://dirt.asla.org/2009/06/29/los-angeles-offers-rebate-for-ripping-out-lawns/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turfdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Might this plan include drought tolerant turf grasses
that have been developed to require much less water
and almost NO mowing?  Hybrid native grasses like Turffalo
might allow for at least SOME areas of turf in the landscape.  
Perhaps the plan should include these new hybrids but also stipulate the percentage of turf area allowable to keep people from simply replacing their current lawns with these hybrids.
Even with their drought tolerant/low growing characteristics, they still require more water than non-turf native landscapes.  
So unless people can reduce their turf areas and become educated to change their expectations of the &#039;evergreen lawn&#039; to allow for the dormancy periods during peak summer when these grasses naturally turn yellow, it might
not be a good idea.
I think at the very least, these hybrids should be required for parks and other public spaces where turf is needed.

http://www.turffalo.com/pages/tturf.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might this plan include drought tolerant turf grasses<br />
that have been developed to require much less water<br />
and almost NO mowing?  Hybrid native grasses like Turffalo<br />
might allow for at least SOME areas of turf in the landscape.<br />
Perhaps the plan should include these new hybrids but also stipulate the percentage of turf area allowable to keep people from simply replacing their current lawns with these hybrids.<br />
Even with their drought tolerant/low growing characteristics, they still require more water than non-turf native landscapes.<br />
So unless people can reduce their turf areas and become educated to change their expectations of the &#8216;evergreen lawn&#8217; to allow for the dormancy periods during peak summer when these grasses naturally turn yellow, it might<br />
not be a good idea.<br />
I think at the very least, these hybrids should be required for parks and other public spaces where turf is needed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.turffalo.com/pages/tturf.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.turffalo.com/pages/tturf.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: h2oh!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[h2oh!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm.....  Curious economics here!

Let&#039;s say you have 2000 square feet of lawn and water 100 inches a year.  That equates to 16,666 cubic feet of water per year or 2,228 gallons.  Paying $2,000 to save this water equates to $1.14 per gallon.  That would take 222 years to have a positive pay-off based upon current water rates of $0.005 per gallon.

And to catch up to Las Vegas...well, if the numbers cited are accurate...saving 7 billion gallons of water from not watering 125 million square feet of landscape means that the landscape had been consuming 7.5 feet (90 inches) per year of water.  Those are rainforest numbers!  

Where is all that money going?  It looks like the mob has found something more profitable than casinos in vegas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;..  Curious economics here!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you have 2000 square feet of lawn and water 100 inches a year.  That equates to 16,666 cubic feet of water per year or 2,228 gallons.  Paying $2,000 to save this water equates to $1.14 per gallon.  That would take 222 years to have a positive pay-off based upon current water rates of $0.005 per gallon.</p>
<p>And to catch up to Las Vegas&#8230;well, if the numbers cited are accurate&#8230;saving 7 billion gallons of water from not watering 125 million square feet of landscape means that the landscape had been consuming 7.5 feet (90 inches) per year of water.  Those are rainforest numbers!  </p>
<p>Where is all that money going?  It looks like the mob has found something more profitable than casinos in vegas!</p>
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