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	<title>Comments on: How to Do It: Oyster-Tecture</title>
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		<title>By: David Steven Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Steven Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aris, I work for the Rhode Island Nature Conservancy managing oyster-shellfish restoration projects and am interested in hearing more about your efforts in Connecticut.

Please respond-email me when the time permits. 

Thanks, 
David Steven Brown]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aris, I work for the Rhode Island Nature Conservancy managing oyster-shellfish restoration projects and am interested in hearing more about your efforts in Connecticut.</p>
<p>Please respond-email me when the time permits. </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David Steven Brown</p>
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		<title>By: Aris Stalis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aris Stalis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Ravit:
This is great feedback for the development of oyster beds.  We are considering such a proposal here in Connecticut, but are need of identifying the correct pre-testing to make sure that we are not building a restoration doomed to longer-term failure, or who is appropriate to assist in such a plan.

Nick, Thank you in advance for forwarding to Dr. Ravit.

This is an important part that landscape architects can play, since we are often called upon to develop plans for restoration of sites along our coastlines.

Sincerely,
Aris
Aris W. Stalis, ASLA, LEED AP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Ravit:<br />
This is great feedback for the development of oyster beds.  We are considering such a proposal here in Connecticut, but are need of identifying the correct pre-testing to make sure that we are not building a restoration doomed to longer-term failure, or who is appropriate to assist in such a plan.</p>
<p>Nick, Thank you in advance for forwarding to Dr. Ravit.</p>
<p>This is an important part that landscape architects can play, since we are often called upon to develop plans for restoration of sites along our coastlines.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Aris<br />
Aris W. Stalis, ASLA, LEED AP</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Tufaro</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sent this article to Beth Ravir, PhD of Rutgers University and thought that you might value her comments, below:

Thank you for sending this article on to me. There are a couple comments I
will make, but keep in mind my oyster experience is solely within the
Hudson-Raritan Estuary (HRE), a very unique place!

1. The writer assumes that oyster larvae are in the water in abundances
that allow enough juveniles to set on the introduced substrate and survive
their first year to produce a viable new population. We have not seen this
to be the case in the HRE, and we believe the dearth of larvae is due to
the fact that the adult oysters are all but &quot;ecologicall extinct&quot; in the
HRE system. Without adults spawning to produce viable larvae, there will 
be no set or a set that is too small to survive (high first year mortality
is typical). I should note that in southern NJ waters this approach does
seem to be producing viable sets.

2. The project described was built in a warmer climate than NY/NJ and
north of the HRE experiences. We have found that the survival rate under
the intertidal conditions described (the oysters are exposed to the air
during low tide) is terrible in the HRE. Our test oysters had much higher
survival rates when they remained under water continually (subtidal). This
positioning also allows the oysters to filter continuously, thus
contributing greater water quality benefits. However, a subtidal placement
is harder for a non-diving volunteer to monitor.

3. Just placing bags of shell does not take into account the hydrology of
a site. If there is strong energy due to currents, wind, or waves then the
oysters may require some additional support to withstand natural forces.
If the restored oysters do not have proper support, they will be washed
away.

4. Please note that the calculations of how much an oyster filters are
typically done under lab conditions. In my opinion, these estimates should
be considered &quot;potential&quot; filtering activity. It is notoriously difficult
to measure actual water quality benefits in the &quot;real world&quot; since the
systems we are typically dealing with are quite massive. Some scientists
have tried various methods to measure effects on water quality in the
field, but actual field data attributable solely to oysters is hard to
get.

5. Although one parasite is mentioned (MSX), there are other factors that
can affect the oysters&#039; health and survival. Another common pathogen is
called dermo - we have seen evidence of both MSX and dermo infection in
HRE oysters. We have also seen adverse tissue effects which we believe to
be the result of environmental contamination. Until waters at a
restoration location are deemed clean enough (what is &quot;enough&quot;?) for
oysters to survive (they are susceptible to pollution, the marine &quot;canary
in the coal mine&quot;) we should be pre-testing sites to make sure that we are
not building a restoration doomed to longer-term failure.

Having said all of the above, based on our initial results in Keyport
Harbor, I enthusiastically endorse identifying as many appropriate sites
for oyster restoration in the HRE as possible. Eastern oysters contribute
habitat that is valuable for other species, and if we can reach critical
masses, the water quality and shoreline protection aspects could be
significant.

Beth

Beth Ravit, PhD
Department of Environmental Sciences
School of Environmental &amp; Biological Sciences
Rutgers University
14 College Farm Road
New Brunswick, NJ 08901
P: 732-932-9800,ext 6210]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent this article to Beth Ravir, PhD of Rutgers University and thought that you might value her comments, below:</p>
<p>Thank you for sending this article on to me. There are a couple comments I<br />
will make, but keep in mind my oyster experience is solely within the<br />
Hudson-Raritan Estuary (HRE), a very unique place!</p>
<p>1. The writer assumes that oyster larvae are in the water in abundances<br />
that allow enough juveniles to set on the introduced substrate and survive<br />
their first year to produce a viable new population. We have not seen this<br />
to be the case in the HRE, and we believe the dearth of larvae is due to<br />
the fact that the adult oysters are all but &#8220;ecologicall extinct&#8221; in the<br />
HRE system. Without adults spawning to produce viable larvae, there will<br />
be no set or a set that is too small to survive (high first year mortality<br />
is typical). I should note that in southern NJ waters this approach does<br />
seem to be producing viable sets.</p>
<p>2. The project described was built in a warmer climate than NY/NJ and<br />
north of the HRE experiences. We have found that the survival rate under<br />
the intertidal conditions described (the oysters are exposed to the air<br />
during low tide) is terrible in the HRE. Our test oysters had much higher<br />
survival rates when they remained under water continually (subtidal). This<br />
positioning also allows the oysters to filter continuously, thus<br />
contributing greater water quality benefits. However, a subtidal placement<br />
is harder for a non-diving volunteer to monitor.</p>
<p>3. Just placing bags of shell does not take into account the hydrology of<br />
a site. If there is strong energy due to currents, wind, or waves then the<br />
oysters may require some additional support to withstand natural forces.<br />
If the restored oysters do not have proper support, they will be washed<br />
away.</p>
<p>4. Please note that the calculations of how much an oyster filters are<br />
typically done under lab conditions. In my opinion, these estimates should<br />
be considered &#8220;potential&#8221; filtering activity. It is notoriously difficult<br />
to measure actual water quality benefits in the &#8220;real world&#8221; since the<br />
systems we are typically dealing with are quite massive. Some scientists<br />
have tried various methods to measure effects on water quality in the<br />
field, but actual field data attributable solely to oysters is hard to<br />
get.</p>
<p>5. Although one parasite is mentioned (MSX), there are other factors that<br />
can affect the oysters&#8217; health and survival. Another common pathogen is<br />
called dermo &#8211; we have seen evidence of both MSX and dermo infection in<br />
HRE oysters. We have also seen adverse tissue effects which we believe to<br />
be the result of environmental contamination. Until waters at a<br />
restoration location are deemed clean enough (what is &#8220;enough&#8221;?) for<br />
oysters to survive (they are susceptible to pollution, the marine &#8220;canary<br />
in the coal mine&#8221;) we should be pre-testing sites to make sure that we are<br />
not building a restoration doomed to longer-term failure.</p>
<p>Having said all of the above, based on our initial results in Keyport<br />
Harbor, I enthusiastically endorse identifying as many appropriate sites<br />
for oyster restoration in the HRE as possible. Eastern oysters contribute<br />
habitat that is valuable for other species, and if we can reach critical<br />
masses, the water quality and shoreline protection aspects could be<br />
significant.</p>
<p>Beth</p>
<p>Beth Ravit, PhD<br />
Department of Environmental Sciences<br />
School of Environmental &amp; Biological Sciences<br />
Rutgers University<br />
14 College Farm Road<br />
New Brunswick, NJ 08901<br />
P: 732-932-9800,ext 6210</p>
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